Showing posts with label 8chan. Show all posts
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Sunday, May 31, 2020

American Tinderbox - Blame White Nationalists & The QAnon- "Boogaloo" Extremists Fomenting Riots To Launch a Civil War


Far-right activists marched through the University of Virginia campus with torches on Friday night.
THESE are the renegades the Feds ought to be looking at as chaos is unleashed in American cities. These Right wing racist savages - lower image from Charlottesville in Aug. 2017,  chanting "Jews will not replace us!"-  have been itching to start a race war since Charlottesville and before.

One can understand why Janice would be suspicious after watching AG Bill Barr's performance two nights ago, blabbering about the violence accompanying many of the George Floyd protests: "In many cases it appears the violence is driven by anarchic and left wing extremist groups".  Unwilling to pin the tail on the actual messengers of mayhem:  right wing extremists using the upheaval, chaos and violence to hijack the peaceful protests for their own ends.    With the reporting by Vice News overnight, that:

"Far Right extremists are hoping to turn the George Floyd protests into a new Civil War."

Janice had her first evidence that her suspicions were correct, and it is the Right and its dregs (e.g. from 4chan, 8chan, Boogaloo Bois, militias  etc.- such as stormed the Minnesota state house two months ago) behind all the havoc and using the civil protests as a "human shield". I agree with her totally and also that the Swine -in -chief and his toady Barr are trying to callously exploit these events to propound a "law and order" meme to help Trump get re-elected.  

And what do we find Trump doing in the midst of this national agony, with millions of citizens suffering -   over 104,000 deaths from the pandemic, 40 million unemployed, no more stimulus money and facing home evictions in a month?  Is he trying to assuage the pain and bring the country together? Hell no, he's acting the part of the vicious, vile, verminous rat he is, e.g

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Firing off a series of tweets at Minnesota's response, vowing "shootings" will soon be done, ridiculing protesters outside his gated mansion at the White House,  and warning them that "vicious dogs will be released."  Thereby putting himself in the same role as the infamous AL sheriff Bull Connor-   who used fire hoses and vicious dogs on peaceful marching men, women and children in Birmingham over 50 years ago.   Only this time going one better than Connor and bragging "there will be some of the most ominous weapons ever seen" - i.e. if protesters attempt to breach the WH fence to get at him.  See also:

America is at a low ebb, shaken by multiple blows, and Trump adds to the distress


 Janice is also aware, of course, of German history and how -when Hitler and the Nazis came to power - they had blamed "Jews, leftists, socialists and unions" for  ongoing civil unrest and violent mayhem and riots that struck German cities in the waning days of the Weimar Republic.  But most of those were incited by Hitler's S.A. (Sturm Abteilung) terror squads.

Ian Kershaw in his magnificent account of Hitler’s rise to power (‘Hitler Nemesis’) noted that Germany's 1930-31 Weimar Republic constituted a weak democracy which had little or no control over the most radical Rightists, especially Hitler’s NSDAP party. They would regularly beat Marxists, socialists, and any leftists on the streets while holding up signs that read: “Tot dem Marxem!” (Death to Marxists!)  (Recall on Thursday, Trump himself Tweeted out a video of a supporter saying, “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.”)

My good fortune has been that on two occasions - one in August of 1978, the other in May of 1985-   I was able to meet and talk with actual flesh and blood Germans from the WWII era: one who had been a member of Hitler Youth (forced to at the point of a gun to his mother's head), and two others who had fought for the most fearsome army on the continent - the German Wehrmacht. At different times, they used their own photographs, films and archives to show me just what Hitler and Nazis were about. Looking back on the content of those archival films I see the same echoes now in our present condition, including mass unemployment, riots, and mayhem.

Let's move to the present. In her latest NY Times column Michelle Goldberg wrote:


"But if America feels like a tinderbox at the moment, it’s not just because of pressure coming from the dispossessed. On Wednesday, the journalists Robert Evans and Jason Wilson published a fascinating and disturbing look at the “boogaloo” movement — “an extremely online update of the militia movement” — on the investigative website Bellingcat. “The ‘boogaloo Bois’ expect, even hope, that the warmer weather will bring armed confrontations with law enforcement, and will build momentum towards a new civil war in the United States,” Evans and Wilson write. They add, “In a divided, destabilized post-coronavirus landscape, they could well contribute to widespread violence in the streets of American cities.”

This is exactly what we are seeing now.  Echoing these insights, Mia Bloom on her blog Justsecurity notes:

 "Former FBI agent and CNN commentator, Josh Campbell wrote, that Minnesota “authorities have been monitoring alleged criminals online, including postings by suspected white supremacists trying to incite violence.”

Most disturbing:


"The accelerationists, if you have never heard the term, are an extreme subset of white nationalism whose goal is to bring about chaos and destruction. The basic tenet of accelerationism argues that since Western governments are inherently corrupt, the best (and only) thing supremacists can do is to accelerate the end of society by sowing chaos and aggravating political tensions. “Accelerationist ideas have been cited in mass shooters’ manifestos — explicitly, in the case of the New Zealand killer — and are frequently referenced in white supremacist web forums and chat rooms,” Zack Beauchamp explained.

White Supremacists pretending to host a protest to honor George Floyd on Facebook to whip up violence in San Diego were posted on the BLMSD social media warning people not to go and that it was a white supremacist organized rally. People attending demonstrations remarked on the fact that the demographics were wrong, in places like Oakland where the majority of the destruction was perpetrated by young Caucasian men has inspired not just people on social media but reporting in the mainstream"
Of course we also cannot ignore the possibility that agent provocateurs could be at work as well, such as from within the ranks of the police assigned to the protests.  (As pointed out by Joy Reid this morning in relation to an incident in NYC).  We also read from Mia Bloom's account:


"Experts on political violence (and not just Qanon conspiracy theorists) shared stories on social media that the May 27 looting and arson at AutoZone by an unidentified man in a gas mask carrying an open umbrella (dubbed #umbrellaman) was not necessarily a protester but could be an agent provocateur or member of the police. In video posted to YouTube, while this man smashed windows with a hammer, protesters at the scene accused him of being an outsider and began to film him.

According to reporting in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “The man’s actions were so odd that other rioters in the area paused their own protests to call him out and began filming. “Are you a f—ing cop?” someone else can be heard yelling to the man as he disappeared from view.”
As in the 1960s it appears we are faced with fakes, double fakes, insidious skullduggery and the hijacking of protests  by those who firmly believe "the Great Replacement"  Rightist codswallop.  All this to aid their agenda by compounding violence and deflecting attention. The FBI's Cointelpro  comes to mind, which infiltrated left groups from 1956- 1971 and in many cases saw agents inciting incidents in the midst of normally lawful protests, like against the Vietnam War.  In one secret 1968 memo - since exposed via FOIA release-  Hoover made no bones about the motivation:
"To expose, disrupt and otherwise neutralize the activities of various New Left organizations. We must frustrate every effort of these groups and individuals to consolidate their forces or to recruit new or faithful adherents.”
It very much appears that Trump and Barr are resorting to the same tactics now, and Trump himself keeps pouring more gasoline on the simmering fires that could explode if we are not careful - as well as perceptive.  A lesson the Weimar Germans learned too late.  

Update: Further exhibiting his full blown psychosis, ignorance and incompetence in this crisis, Dotard fulminated that "we will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization".   To jog memories, this was the activist group -  NOT an organization with a clear structure that can be penalized under law- that came to the aid  of numerous Charlottesville citizens in August, 2017.  As I wrote in my Aug. 16 post:

Rev. Traci Blackmon  related on MSNBC  how African-Americans singing a hymn  near an entrance in Emancipation Park were set upon by the White racist loons and goons who proceeded to beat and mace them. As Rev. Blackmon put it, "the only thing that saved them was the intervention of Antifa and other protesters" - one of whom drove the racist louts back using a spray can and a match - effectively engineering a mini flame thrower. 

One can surmise from this that if Dotard Donnie Bonespurs had his way, those elderly black Americans singing their hymns would have been bashed senseless.  Much like this racist loon did to one Antifa member trying to save a fellow  protester that day:

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Tuesday, December 10, 2019

IG Report Shows The FBI Had Legitimate Reasons to Open Its Investigation of The Trump Campaign - But Toady Barr Tries To Deny It


Trump's pet toad, William Barr, just felt he had to chime in on the IG report released by David Horowitz, absolving the FBI of any nefarious motives in the investigation of Trump and his campaign in 2016




"Barr's intrusion shows the Justice Department is utterly compromised. Functioning as a political tool for Trump, Giuliani and Sean Hannity."  Chris Hayes last night, on All In.

A Justice Department inspector general’s report examining the FBI’s investigation of President Trump’s 2016 campaign rebutted conservatives’ accusations that top FBI officials were driven by political bias to illegally spy on Trump advisers. The IG Report released yesterday also found broad and “serious performance failures” requiring major changes, which Director Chris Wray has vowed to correct.
The 434-page report issued by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz concluded the FBI had an “authorized purpose” when it initiated its investigation, known as Crossfire Hurricane, into the Trump campaign. In doing so, Horowitz implicitly rejected GOP assertions that the case was launched out of political animus, or that the FBI broke its own rules on using informants.

It asserted, though, that as the probe went on, FBI officials repeatedly decided to emphasize damaging information they heard about Trump associates, and play down exculpatory evidence they found. The bureau promptly indicated it would implement dozens of corrective measures in response to Horowitz’s report and that disciplinary action remains a possibility.   Trump, not surprisingly,  called the report’s findings “far worse than anything I would have imagined.”    In another one of his deranged stupors he barked:





“This was an overthrow of government.  This was an attempted overthrow and a lot of people were in on it and they got caught, they got caught red-handed.
Thereby again conflating himself with the government.  But lest we be led down the path of insanity like Dotard, let's bear in mind the person actually investigated out in the open back then was Hillary. Indeed, then FBI director James Comey's repeated interjections and  announcements of progress in the FBI email investigation likely cost her the election.  Trump paved the way for his own investigation by firing Comey, after the then FBI Director refused to swear loyalty to the orange maggot.  As I wrote in my May 10, 2017 post:
"A combination of factors alerted Trump's reptilian brain stem it had to act and fast. The easiest response - which killed the most "birds" with one stone-  would be firing Comey. That would amount to an instant act of decapitation, not only of Comey but the FBI's investigation into the Trump-Russkie ties.  Using the ruse of Comey's mishandling of the Hillary email server also would come off - to a dumb media - of casting the Donald as a latter day changeling. Who now would strike down Hillary's tormentor and give Trump "brownie points" in so doing.

The problem, as The Financial Times' Edward Luce has pointed out, is it makes zero sense. In Luce's words:


'Mr. Trump is asking the US public to believe he 'terminated and removed'  the FBI director for having treated Mrs. Clinton unfairly. This was the same opponent whom Mr. Trump said should be locked up for mishandling her emails."
The Trump investigation, meanwhile, remained in the shadows. It only really saw the light of day when Bob Mueller began his own investigation leading to the Mueller report. The appointment of Mueller as special prosecutor  was only triggered when Trump stupidly fired Comey.  This was after he refused to carry out the Don's orders.  As Chris Hayes put it last night, regarding Barr's worthless conspiracy claptrap to do with the FBI:

"The obvious problem with this theory is that it makes no sense. Remember this, during the campaign the only investigation that became public was the one regarding Hillary Clinton, which arguably lost her the election. But the FBI was investigating Trump at the very same time. No one uttered a word about it. If they were so desperate to bring Trump down you'd think someone would have said something.  They didn't. So the whole conspiracy theory doesn't even hold together."

In other words, all Barr has to base his objections on are recycled hot air and assorted brain farts from the psycho conspiracy babblers, i.e. from 8chan, Infowars, QAon and the like.

The report also seemed to open a rift inside the Justice Department.  But this is what happens when one sector or division is committed to paranoid fabrications and the other to justice and adherence to reality. 
Embodying lies, mischief, disinformation and fake news, Attorney General William P. Barr went all out for an encore performance of his whitewashing stunt back in April.  When he sprung his little "summary " of the Mueller report to convey  a specious "exoneration" of  Trump.  (Which then immediately encouraged Trump to seek the Ukraine  extortion- paving the way for the articles of impeachment to be announced today.)

This time, Toad Barr disagreed with one of the inspector general’s key conclusions, saying the FBI launched an investigation of a presidential campaign “on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory.” 
Also, basically concurring with this fulsome baloney was Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, who Barr handpicked to conduct an investigation parallel to that of Horowitz.  In other words, he needed a parallel reality  performing puppet and Durham provided it.   Durham said in a statement:
 “Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.
This, of course, is total codswallop. How do we KNOW this? We have foreign intercepts of meetings of Trump cronies, e.g. Carter Page, with Russian  (GRU) agents.  It was these intercepts and related documents - including  FISA warrants- that Devin Nunes threatened to release 2 years ago , to expose a supposed "FBI-DOJ conspiracy".   
In fact the FBI's's involvement was totally called for given the U.S. had to enter the picture with its own FISA warrants, surveillance, etc.  after foreign  intercepts were received from the UK, Germany, the Netherlands. Not to do so would have violated agreements with foreign intel sources, assets. 

Former FBI special agent Frank Figliuzzi was so disturbed by Durham's premature interjections into the IG report he had this to say (last night on 'All In'):

"John Durham, by coming out with this statement in the middle of his own investigation, has violated DOJ policy by commenting on other investigations absent a compelling public interest. And I am hard pressed to find a compelling public interest for a DOJ employee to disagree with their own Inspector General. Unless the timing isn't working for them. 

In other words, Horowitz came out with this good finding for the FBI and it doesn't work for  Barr's own report and its timing. So Barr needs to ride this out toward the election. To keep the public hanging, and thinking something wrong is going to get found."

Yet more reasons that Barr himself needs to be impeached and removed from his office which may well be politicized beyond repair.  So much so that we understand many DOJ employees are pining for the days with ol' Jeff Sessions in charge.

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Attorney General William Barr publicly challenged the watchdog report, defending President Trump.

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Monday, August 12, 2019

No More Kid Gloves For Domestic Terrorists - It's Time To Treat Them Like Al Qaeda & ISIS Vermin

Robert Dear Jr. talks directly to Judge Gilbert Martinez during a court appearance December 09, 2015 where El Paso County prosecutors filed formal charges
Right Wing terrorist Robert Dear blurts out his guilt in court, in December, 2015. 


It was back in November, 2015 that domestic terrorist Robert Lewis Dear, 57, had been arrested and charged with shooting three people to death and wounding nine others,  including five police officers.  This was at a Planned Parenthood clinic here  in Colorado Springs, in which he took aim using an AK-47, the same type of weapon used by the White Nationalist terrorist Patrick Crusius in the El Paso butchery.

At the time I recall going at it with my (now deceased) brother Mike, a strong NRA guy, e.g.

who himself owned an AR, and leaned toward Rightist ideology, though to my knowledge he never entertained ideations of retribution against Jews, undocumented immigrants or LGBT people.  Nonetheless, he did feel Dear was getting a raw deal - and like other right wingers-  had come out strongly against a 2009  Dept. Of Homeland Security report by domestic terror specialist Darryl Johnson.  Johnson at the time headed up a 6-person team at DHS' Office of Intelligence and Analysis which had focused on right wing extremism and terrorism   The paper produced at the time exposed a linkage between Christian fundie religious terrorists (like Dear) who kill abortion providers, as well as anti-immigration and other anti-Semitic extremists.

Alas, the report was pilloried by conservatives and GOP groups as picking on their lot while leaving the left alone, and ignoring the Islamic terrorists.   In the words of Johnson - a self-described conservative Republican: "I didn't think the whole Republican party would basically throw a hissy fit."

Well, they sure did and the effect grew as conservative media's usual whiners (like O'Reilly et al on FOX) painted it as a political hit job by the Obama administration.  My brother Mike (in his blog postings), also depicted it this way, to the point of suggesting Obama had "ordered it".  Ultimately - following the "squeaky wheel"  model -    funding and oversight for domestic terrorism was pulled back in reaction to right wing squeals.  In its wake, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano issued an apology to the American Legion (since one report section concerned returning Iraq and Afghanistan vets) and the number of domestic terror analysts fell to zero by 2010. It was literally a gold-engraved invitation for the rats and roaches to crawl out of the rotting, racist national woodwork.

No one, certainly in the wider media, was able to see how the spread of domestic right wing terror was to metastasize like a cancer gone wild.     Indeed, Johnson's report and the energy devoted to the right wing terrorists proved prescient  given  that since 9/11 far right extremists (including white nationalists) have been responsible for 3 times as many attacks in the U.S. as Islamic extremists.  That stat alone speaks with force to the idea that the full power of the national security state now needs to be brought to bear on the domestic terror elements - including surveillance of all their web cesspools and hiding places. Not necessarily to shut them down but to surveil them for information much as the national security apparatus now does for Isis and al Qaeda bad actors.

This follows the advice of former FBI special agent Cliff Watts in his recent WSJ Review piece, 'Our New Terrorism Problem' (Aug. 10-11, p. C1)  wherein he writes:

"Today's white supremacist terrorists band together online, further radicalize themselves and fire one another up in much the same manner as their jihadist counterparts."

For example, to give an idea of this "firing up" we learned (WSJ, 'Suspect Got Ideas Online', Aug. 6, p. A9):

"In the hours after the attack a discussion broke out on 8chan about his place in the history of mass shooters. One commenter offered:  ' The new guy deserves some praise, he reached almost a third of the high score."

This referred to the fact these cockroaches actually keep score by using the published death counts. Hence, at the time the largest such toll was due to the Orlando Pulse nightclub killer (59) and at the time of the comment Crusius had slaughtered 20. (The death toll has since climbed to 22).   Still other roaches in the vile den of losers were unimpressed and mocked Crusius for failing to kill more people, or for targeting Hispanics instead of Jews.

 Others spewed out praise of the New Zealand mass murderer with this drivel: "Hail St. Tarrant!"  referring to Brenton Tarrant, the slime  who killed 51 Muslims in two Christchurch mosques.

Crusius himself, appeared to lose nerve when first posting on this roach den, writing (ibid.):

"I have to do this before I lose my nerve.  I figured that an underprepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no attack and no manifesto."

And of course, the most outspoken in the 8chan  roach nest urged him on to action. But stop for a moment: If the FBI had been monitoring the site they'd have been alerted to his plans, put a GPS or other tracking on his vehicle, then taken him out before he even got to the outskirts of El Paso  Then 22 lives could have been saved.  As Cliff Watts aptly noted (ibid.):

"The overall goal is clear and urgent: detect violent white supremacists online and intercept them on the ground by increasing the volume of intelligence and the speed with which it is shared among federal, state and local law enforcement officers."

Adding:

"As white supremacists have been pushed from more mainstream social media platforms, they have descended on less policed, more anonymous platforms such as Gab.com and 8chan."

It is true Crusius' manifesto on 8chan didn't include specific plans to carry out the shooting and as the WSJ piece notes "it isn't clear law enforcement would have taken action even if they had known about it."

This is because "there are many vague threats of hate-filled violence" including 2,730 in a single hour two days following the shooting. Fair enough, but we've since learned Crusius purchased an AK-style weapon and his mother Lori had alerted local authorities. That ought to have been a major red flag in tandem with his 8chan post, especially on the "fear of losing his nerve".  Which I would always take 100 times more seriously than an ordinary threat, i.e. minus any expression of fear.  And as Cliff Watts points out, this is all the more urgent given "violent white supremacism in the U.S. has grown from the bottom up, not the top down."

Basically then, we are dealing with a leaderless,  paranoid pseudo resistance to "elite" democratic norms and laws. This means other (peer) extremists, like on 8chan, or the Daily Stormer, will generally be the immediate stimulus for any attacks, not some distant authority - such as Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,  who directs the Isis rats.    Thus we have a spontaneously emergent  - but malignant -- social media entity that irrationally glorifies the worst solo mass killers while extolling their monstrous deeds  - and challenging others to surpass them.  In many ways, as bio-ethnologist Jacques Monod would put it, we are confronting one of the most malignant mind viruses.  And just like smallpox or the Ebola virus it needs to be eradicated but there are right and wrong ways to do it.

Current 8chan operator Jim Watkins describes his site in preposterously vanilla terms as "just an open piece of paper for writing on" (Sunday Denver Post, p. 7 A)..  Hardly! It's more akin to an open cyber cesspit inviting every passing hater and miscreant misogynist (incel) or white supremacist to spout his venom and violence and add to the existing, overflowing effluent.

Fortunately, Cliff Watts in his WSJ piece,  offers ways to neutralize this effluent and its more violent, would be terror perpetrators   Many of his proposals also ought to be acceptable in terms of the First Amendment. My brother Mike always would say 'Show me a decent way to temper online speech - say to prevent mass murders- and I'll accept it!"  Well, I believe Mr. Watts has found a way and I suspect Mike might concur if he was still alive.

For example, Watts bids us to honestly acknowledge that "U.S. counterterrorism is behind the times".  This also references Director Chris Wray's recent testimony that "the Bureau has recorded roughly as many domestic terrorism arrests as international terror ones in 2019": and yet the FBI still dedicates more investigators to the latter.  The question is 'Why?'   The answer provided is simply that the "FBI has more resources to tackle the jihadist problem and more legal authority to pursue its adherents."

But this needs to change if the statistics for victims keep accumulating as they are. The most direct way to resolve this issue, which even Mr. Watts has advocated for (in a recent appearance on 'All In' ) is by  using human intelligence in conjunction with extending surveillance of social media sites where these dregs of society congregate   As he also writes:

"Law enforcement and social media companies must also work more transparently together. to detect likely attackers and stem the flood of terrorist and violent content."

This is already being done in the case of child pornography and federal and local authorities can now profile the creators, traffickers, traders and related offenders, as well as track them across the web - to the point of arrest and then prosecution. So why not a similar method to ferret out the mass killers hiding out in assorted rat warrens?   Well, it's largely a matter of will, political and legal.  One answer for Watts is to create a "joint center for social media intelligence where investigators and personnel at the tech companies share information about extremists."   This could work, assuming the social media outfits cooperate, but an even better solution would be to do what is already done for surveillance of child porn creators and purveyors: assign specific task force units to monitor activity 24/7  on supremacist- incel sites - and then drop the hammer when the line is crossed and a transaction or attack is evident.. This can be done with or without social media companies' cooperation. Above all, it ought to be done in the name of national security just as was invoked to monitor Islamic radical attacks.  Watt also adds that: "Investigators must know what to look for. That means a comprehensive study of domestic extremist ideologies, however confused or vitriolic."

We can no longer afford to keep separating the two forms of terror, and then claim we are advocating for the general welfare, and protecting the most vulnerable.  But when more people were murdered last year by  right wing extremists than any year since 1995 (Oklahoma City bombing) and the result is to defund the FBI's counterterrorism domestic task force- well, it's not getting done. No way in hell.  Begging the question that if Islamic terrorists were responsible for committing 75% of all extremist -related fatalities (from 2009-18) would such a blind eye similarly be evident? I doubt it.

Watts' other suggestion of conducting online interventions to match right wing extremists with counselors (to provide an "off ramp")  could also work.  But as my psychology post doc niece Shayl put it: "Yeah, but only if the choice offered is between seeing a counselor or getting ten years in the slammer!"

She has a point.  No intervention toward matching a miscreant with a case worker is likely to be of any use if it's purely voluntary.

What about the availability of military -style weapons like the AR-15, or AK-47?  Cliff Watts pulls no punches in his take that these don't belong on American streets - or in the hands of any respectable citizen. As he writes (ibid.):

"Reducing the impact of domestic terrorism requires restricting the weaponry available to radicals. America should treat guns much the same way it does cars.  Few Americans would want to share the road with unlicensed, untrained and uninsured motorists, but with guns we don't require even one of these elements to protect the public."

Which, of course, is pure, unadulterated insanity, as I often told Mike, including in responding to his then blog posts.  Most salient is Watts next point:

"Weapons of  war, like the assault rifles used by white supremacists in recent weeks....have no place on American streets. Today's terrorists have cops outgunned."

And as I repeatedly told Mike even after he got his own AR-15, one doesn't need such a weapon to protect home and hearth - OR for hunting.  That is bare foolishness.  Nor is there some 2nd amendment right to own such weapons, as I previously posted, see e.g.

http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2018/02/sorry-you-have-no-constitutional-right.html

As blogger David Lindorff put it soon after the Parkland massacre:
"An AR-15 is not a hunting weapon. In fact there’s a reason it’s called an “assault rifle.” As a hunter, unless you’re an atrocious shot and are hunting random flocks of small birds, you certainly don’t need to be able to fire powerful ammunition of two bullets per second — the rate at which experts say an ordinary person could be able to pull the trigger."



By contrast, the knife  -- no matter how sharp or large- must usually be wielded by an assailant in an up close and personal manner. It isn't like taking aim from 20 or more feet away and dispatching victims with the touch of a trigger.  To kill seventeen people  even in the same room - the assailant would have to work demonically, stabbing from one to the other, and there is no assurance any given slash would be a fatal one  say like an  AR-15 bullet fired into a chest.  Even if it took only 3 seconds per stab, this  is much longer than firing 2 rounds per second. And you can't assume the people will just stand there like tackling dummies and let you do them in, oh no. They will react and more than likely several will gang up to take the assailant down. 

This is the first point that the assault rifle lovers must be forced to admit, that it is far more difficult to kill with a knife than an assault weapon.

Cliff Watts has admirably addressed the menace of domestic terrorism with a multi-pronged approach that ought to be taken seriously and implemented with due dispatch.  If it isn't we will see many more of these slaughters -   and the extremists behind them will become ever more emboldened.   The time is now to act and for the sane and rational to cease making excuses.  As Watts noted,the targeted minorities - whether Jews, Hispanics or LGBT people - "still haven't been properly heard or supported by their political leaders."  That needs to change and pronto. Either we're serious about all forms of terrorism- and that includes the use of assault weapons-  or we are merely play- acting when we profess outrage at mass shootings such as occurred in El Paso. 

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