More Hell porn from Pastor Mikey's blog - showing an atheist who "waited too late". It could as easily depict Pastor Mikey in the throes of his own violent brain chemical cascades and unable to exit. We know that a slew of brain chemicals can act to ferment neurons and trigger hallucinations. Could it be that the real Mike disappeared over five years ago, and a brain-jellied simulacron is in his place?
Well, it took him a few days to compile those neurons and synapses into a functional network, but my bro pastor did respond to my recent reply to him:
http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2010/10/reply-to-clueless-pastor-brother.html
albeit, predictably.
Well, at least he grants me the "benefit of the doubt" that I never intended for him to literally follow my (tongue-in-cheek) advice to jump off the Skyway bridge near St. Pete, Fla. However, that is about where his generosity of spirit ends.
When I put it to him about simply being brothers, he makes the excuse that I truly didn't want any "harmonious relationship" based on asserting:
"Recall when we were corresponding via e-mail and occasionally on the phone . You let me know in no uncertain terms that as an atheist , you "prefer" I not say "God bless you," "I'm praying for you," nor did you want me to send you any Christian Christmas cards "
and:
"You also did not want me to discuss Christianity with you in any way , shape , form , or fashion . However , you felt you could voice YOUR opinions on theological or political matters , including your atheism , and I'm NOT supposed to say anything in rebuttal ?! "
As to the first paragraph, common sense (if not spiritual generosity) would have indicated that a temperate and considerate person doesn't send Xmas cards to an atheist, just as I'd not send a Solstice card to a Xtian. In like manner, a temperate Christian doesn't send Xmas cards to a Jew, or Muslim - knowing they will offend. So using the excuse that Mikey does here, doesn't cut it. Rather than insisting I am the one who demands a harmonious relationship be on my terms, HE is the one demanding it be on his portentous witnessing terms. In other words, he won't exhibit any kind of harmonious relationship unless it's got God in it. But we know "God" is a delusionary term merely fabricated by the brain. See e.g.
http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-kinder-humorous-atheism-way.html
As to the second response, I believe he is referring to email exchanges we had 2 yrs. ago, however he neglects to mention (conveniently) that my atheist content was only in response to his biblical quotations and preaching. You see, Mike's vision is all one-sided, like the old Matthew 12 quote, he quickly spots the speck in others' eyes - but never observes the beam in his own.
Most hilarious therefore is when he actually writes:
"Remember , Phil , sometimes when we point our finger at someone in an accusatory way , we should look in the mirror and we'll see it pointing right back....AT US !! "
Well, uh ...yeah, Mike...I just wish YOU would recall that!
And on calling him out on his "holier than thou" spiel, he rants in specious defense:
"I challenge you , or anyone else to show me anywhere , either on this blog or my I-Net church where I claim to be "holier-than-thou." On the contrary , I have stated numerous times in my sermons and past posts that I AM A SINNER - and will ALWAYS be a SINNER !! "
Well now, Mikey, that's most gracious of you to admit you're a sinner, but that's hardly what I was all about. (Though you're claiming so is a contradiction to your insistence that you ARE "like Christ" , i.e. being tempted by Satan while in the desert. No, bro! If a sinner you are NOT "like Christ"- no way and no how!) To my way of thought, and I know you will diverge, no "sinner" has any damned business calling out or castigating others as "hell bound" for their beliefs, or anything of the sort. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"!
Yet you consistently cast "first stones" at atheists, Catholics (a "Satanic cult" in your parlance), Buddhists, Hindus, spiritual scholars, JWs, Mormons, Eckists, science of mind folk and legions of others - merely because their beliefs or lack disagree with yours. As an admitted "sinner" then, you have NO business: ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NEIN...calling down on any putative or remote judgments on anyone - which you DO- each time you draw up one of your Hell porn or cartoon images with a person holding a divergent belief in it.
I don't care how many pages of your KJV you think entitle you to do so, you are not justified. If you are a sinner, you are a groping pissant like all the rest of us and occupy no special position to presume punishments or the lack thereof on ANYONE!!!! Now, if you want to choose to use reason to try to show why there is a higher probability that YOU as a fundie "saved" sinner will fare better than others, fine. But you are not entitled to be dogmatic about it, or act, draw or say or write anything as if you know what the future end will be for anyone.
And of course, he can't help but defer to his supposed special position in his arrogance:
"Each and EVERY DAY , I talk to God , tell Him I'm sorry for my sins , repent , and ask His forgiveness - and know what ? He FORGIVES ME - as He does ALL people who come to HIM in repentance and ask His forgiveness ! Our sins have been washed away by the precious blood of Christ ! NEVER to be remembered again "
Again, you are deluded. Your brain is jacking you, maybe pumping your synapses full of endorphins or whatever. This is all in your mind. You are asking your brain to forgive you and nothing more and a little (drug induced) voice in your brain is saying back "Yes, Mikey, I forgive thee". There is absolutely NO evidence or empirical basis for your belief that you are special any more than mom is for saying her rosary. Your KJV can't be invoked because we know how debased and contaminated it is, full of late additions, mistranslations, errors and contradictions.
See:
http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-king-james-bible-cannot-be-trusted.html
and
http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2010/09/case-for-dispensing-with-all-holy-books.html
When I call him out as "pretentious" for presuming to read the mind of God (assuming it existed) he babbles:
"Yes , I DO KNOW because of my "good book," as you so eloquently put it . As for it being an "obession," it SURE IS , brother ! Because , like all Christians , we live , eat and breath the Word of God ! "Idolatry?" No , Phil , idolatry is ANYTHING that takes second place to GOD ! "
But Mikey, your good book ISN'T God, it's a defective miasma of antiquated scribblings from error prone sheep herders and nomads! You're no more reading the mind of the deity than I am by solving the Schrodinger time-independent equation in quantum mechanics!
As Prof. Bart D. Ehrman (Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why’, 2005). puts it :
“The King James was not given by God but was a translation by a group of scholars in the early seventeenth century who based their rendition on a faulty Greek text. Later translators based their translations on Greek texts that were better…but not perfect”
In other words, the KJV comes closest to being a total work of fiction with the least interjection of historical elements or reliable biographical material. It’s fine as an elegant English language work, but much like Shakespeare’s ‘As You Like It’ or ‘Romeo & Juliet’ –mainly fantasy stories. Not to be taken as serious, literal works embodying history or fact.
Now, if you therefore obsess over it, you ARE committing idolatry since the book is only a defective secondary artifact, not the actual words or thoughts of any genuine deity.
Then we see these words, where he obviously still doesn't grasp he's hoist on his own petard:
"Maybe MY eyes are going bad , Phil . Could you please SHOW me where I "admitted" that "salvation on the Lord JC really ISN'T enough to ensure passage into the pearly gates! " ? As well as me "conceding" to that fact ! "
Sure, Mikey!
When you wrote:
"Of course , it really doesn't surprise me that "Phil" would want me to "off myself." After all , if he could get someone to commit murder via suicide , that's another 'feather' ( or does Satan give out horns ) in his hat . As our bodies do NOT belong to us - they belong to God ! "
In other words, if your "body belongs to God" you don't have the capacity of action to off it. But the trouble is, you do! The last sentence is simply clever subterfuge- a dodge, or clumsy rationalization to escape self-responsibility, if you will. Hence, you must NOT do this because you know in your heart of hearts it would be "testing God" (as I recall my theology prof put it) and hence, send you to Hell - despite the fact you are supposedly already saved. But you employ the excuse that your "body belongs to God" to try to dodge the predicament. Thus, if you can get away with that phony reasoning, you can assert: "I can't do anything to my body 'cause it's not under my control, so no matter what I'm still saved"
But I'd wager that'd change in a New York second if you were at the end of a torturer's hot pliers and he (or she) was pulling out strips of your skin, your teeth or organs-- including fingernails, toenails, ear lobes, as well as from your groin and every where else, bit by bit. Then leaving you for a half hour to wallow in your agony before coming back and resuming. I will bet anything if a knife were nearby you'd off yourself in a second rather than tolerate more hours or days with your flesh torn apart. (And you can spout all the nonsense you want about "offering up your suffering to Jesus" but I am not buying it. No more than than night in Lake Panosoffkee (1976) where after several beers you bragged that if you had walked on the Moon you wouldn't have required any space suit!)
And, of course, his bravado gets the better of him again:
"A TRUE Christian would NEVER commit suicide , anymore than they would commit premeditated cold-blooded murder . Why? Because if a Christian WERE seriously thinking of it , he would FIRST ask for strength and help from the LORD via the Holy Spirit that dwells inside ALL true Christians - and hence , they would NOT give in to the temptation(s) of Satan's atheists !"
Horse pockey! True Christians have always committed suicide and done it when existence became too much to bear. One well known Christian martyr (Perpetua) killed herself rather than submit to more gang rapes by Romans. You give yourself way too much credit, bro. And believe me, in the right circumstance you'd do the same as we all would.
And ending, after I ask him to drop the "preacher" bullshit:
"I rest my case . It MUST be Phil's way - or NO WAY ! Again , unless and until Phil can ever accept God's free gift of salvation , he will remain deceived and in the bonds of Satan "
No, it need not be MY way. I already said there was latitude for us to relate without having any religious inputs whatever. It's just that in your pastor persona you're incapable of doing it.
As for "free gift of salvation", wrong. There is NO "gift" of salvation because there's nothing to be saved from - other than the fermented phantasmagorias cooked up in that fermented brain of yours, under the action and influence of vasopressin, brain opiates, adrenalin and endorphins. ("Being washed in the blood of the lamb" is part of the mythology that groping and chemically charged brains buy into while locked into fundy-hood).Your problem is you're so locked into that fermented brain you can't see how it's fooling you. YOU are the one in the bonds of your brain, and it's tragic to behold.
Like Dad said four weeks before he died, when I spoke with him on the phone for Father's Day last year:
"I just wish Mike would get his head together for once and stop with all these attacks on family, and especially Catholics"
I promised him I'd do my best, but it's obvious now you're beyond help. You are so locked up inside that cranium that if Satan and Jesus really did appear in a materialistic setting (Say, arriving as aliens from a planet that featured species of "christs and demons"), I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference with what was going on inside your head.
Remember, Mr. Sinner, take care of your own field first before you purport to plow and judge the deficiencies of others'. Bear in mind also that prayers are useless, and only done to assuage the existential doubts in the brain of the one praying. So, don't waste your precious time praying for me 'before it's too late", if you want to pray for anyone do so for yourself - to liberate your brain its false reality prison of psychotic delusions.
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