Monday, September 15, 2025

Hate To Break It To Kirk Critics But Employers Do Have The Right To Fire You

 Plenty of left-wing voices online have fueled the divisions.” Disagree. While some did revel in Kirk’s death, most liberals condemned the violence but expressed the truth about his racism, homophobia and xenophobia. When a noted person is cut down, their aspirational thoughts and beliefs are often quoted in remembrance. Not so much with Kirk." - NY Times comment

It's not surprising to hear the angry and inappropriate words from our toddler-in-chief in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death. Governor Cox's approach is a mature and reasonable approach. What is most disappointing is that almost no GOP member in Congress is willing to counter Trump's divisive messaging. They truly are cowards at a time when our country desperately needs to go in a different direction.- NY Times comment

According to a Washington Post story last Friday ('Workers Are Getting Fired Over Charlie Kirk Posts'):

"Within 24 hours of Charlie Kirk’s killing, an assistant dean at a Tennessee college, a communications staffer for an NFL team, a Next Door employee in Milwaukee, and the co-owner of a Cincinnati barbecue restaurant were fired after posting about it. "

Subsequent casualties of the Rightists' outing of negative comments included: HS teachers, flight attendants, corporate workers, and even Matthew Dowd - an MSNBC commentator. Dowd' offense? Basing his criticism of Kirk on a theological premise I learned at a Catholic High School.  Dowd, in a segment on Katy Tur had said:

“Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and then not expect awful actions to take place.

The common denominator in all these dismissals or suspensions?  They'd all employed memes or language their employers deemed offensive or insensitive.  For example the Facebook post from Tennessee professor Laura Sosh-Lightsy: 

 “Looks like ol’ Charlie spoke his fate into existence. Hate begets hate. ZERO sympathy.”

Before the day was done, Sosh-Lightsy had been terminated over her "inappropriate and callous" comments which were "inconsistent with our values."

Before too many get bent out of shape it is well to bear in mind that no one operating in a private work domain has an inherent right to "free speech".  Read the Constitution!  In particular the clause:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,

Now what does that say? It says CONGRESS shall make no law, i.e. to take away your right to free speech.  It does not say a private corporation, hospital or university cannot prevent you from using its websites, devices, or other access from exercising speech, or refusing to follow their speech rules.  Including posting critiques on Facebook.

 The limits on free speech by private corporations were already pointed out over a half century ago by Charles Reich in his book 'Opposing the System.'  Citing the case of 'Waters v. Churchill' (p. 146), Reich noted:

"the Supreme court made clear that an employee's speech is not protected if the employer  believes the speech might interfere with the efficiency of the employer's operations."

In a general matter one can indeed aver that an employee - including flight attendants, nurses, professors, high school teachers - even Secret Service agents- signs away any "free speech" rights once they walk through that employment door.  Indeed, in the corporation I once worked for as a technical writer (Nucletron) I was told flat out I could not be emailing any of my atheist materials to fellow employees. Or indeed discussing with them atheist principles.   (I had to stuff it, despite coworkers expressing a keen interest after seeing articles published in The Baltimore Sun)

 The same law applies to Google's 2017 termination of software engineer James Damore for a 3,000 word effort blasting Google's "left bias" for "creating a politically correct monoculture" .      Then Google CEO Sundar Pichai noted in justifying Damore's dismissal:

 "to suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK."   

So Damore was let go.

The WSJ - foremost bastion for the rights of the reactionary Right - lambasted the company in an editorial ('Google's  Diversity Problems', Aug. 8, 2017, p. A14) :


"In other words its OK to express views as long as they are not antithetical to Google's political culture."

But as I pointed out in a post at the time: 

"The WSJ may whine and moan, but Damore's firing is going to stand. Strangely, the organ of high finance seems to have forgotten that workers in corporations have absolutely no free speech rights, or First Amendment ones."

 Nor should one believe academia to be a safe haven!  Twenty years ago, Prof. Ward Churchill's free speech was rendered null and void at the University of Colorado - Boulder. This after  Churchill had written an essay On the Justice of Roosting Chickens   in an obscure political science journal.  Some northeastern collegian with too much time on his hands found the essay, then circulated it widely on the web. It ultimately ended up in the hands of U of C board honchos who declared Churchill "unpatriotic" and also, "unfit to teach."  

Churchill's transgression?  He had argued the 9/11 attacks were a "natural and unavoidable consequence" of unlawful   U.S. foreign policy over the last half of the 20th century.

A special university "panel" was convened which rummaged through all of Churchill's  existing drafts, academic papers and communications - which they did to no other prof. They then pronounced their "verdict":  finding hum guilty of "plagiarism".   Outraged that the university had to  rely on a phony cover issue to fire him Churchill pursued the case for the next 3  years, finally finding a judge (and jury) that ruled in his favor.  He was awarded $1.  

The message from the Damore and Churchill cases is simple, as it is with Twitter icing Trump's Twitter account in 2020:  There is no absolute right to an exercise of individual free speech in this country, no matter what popular media or pundits on FOX (or ensconced at the WSJ) may tell you.  

However, under the first amendment the ordinary (outside of private employment) citizen's right to free speech remains inviolate, and that includes taking a 79-year old wannabe dictator president to task. Especially for the dozens of lawless executive actions, rulings, dictates, threats and other shit perpetrated in the last 8 months. 

And most recently raging like a lunatic about the "radical left" being in some way responsible for Kirk's murder. This is most emphatically not the way to heal this nation as he professes to want to do. He'd do better taking a serious page from Utah Governor Spencer Cox's tone who said in the wake of the killing :

We can return violence with violence, we can return hate with hate, and that’s the problem with political violence — is it metastasizes. Because we can always point the finger at the other side. And at some point, we have to find an off-ramp, or it’s going to get much, much worse.

That "off ramp" from the overheated divisive rhetoric is critically needed right now in this parlous political  moment. Alas, that has to start with Trump who needs to show for once he's fit to be in office. But don't look for it, as the orange dirtbag is congenitally incapable of political awareness. Hence, liberal organizations rightly fear that Trump will use the Kirk shooting to justify a crackdown on their operations, targeting their cash flow and nonprofit status or contributors. 

National healing? Not so long as Trump is in office exuding his retribution toxins.


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Excerpt:

President Trump does not subscribe to the traditional notion of being president for all Americans. The first few minutes of President Trump’s Oval Office address after the assassination of Charlie Kirk last week followed the conventional presidential playbook. He praised the victim, asked God to watch over his family and talked mournfully of “a dark moment for America.”

Then he tossed the playbook aside, angrily blaming the murder on the American left and vowing revenge.

That was stark even for some viewers who might normally be sympathetic. When Mr. Trump appeared later on Fox News, a host noted that there were “radicals on the right,” just as there were “radicals on the left,” and asked, “How do we come back together?” The president rejected the premise. Radicals on the right were justified by anger over crime, he said. “The radicals on the left are the problem,” he added. “And they’re vicious. And they’re horrible.”

Mr. Trump has long made clear that coming together is not the mission of his presidency. In an era of deep polarization in American society, he rarely talks about healing


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A campaign by public officials and others on the right has led just days after the conservative activist’s death to the firing or punishment of teachers, an Office Depot employee, government workers, a TV pundit and the expectation of more dismissals coming.

This past weekend, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy posted that American Airlines had grounded pilots who he said were celebrating Kirk’s assassination.

“This behavior is disgusting and they should be fired,” Duffy said on the social media site X.

As elected officials and conservative influencers lionize Kirk as a warrior for free expression who championed provocative opinions, they’re also weaponizing the tactics they saw being used to malign their movement — the calls for firings, the ostracism, the pressure to watch what you say.

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St. Vrain Valley teacher no longer in classroom after social media posts

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Shortly after Kirk’s death, teacher Christine Engelen reposted a Facebook post by a different person that described Kirk as a fascist. The post urged people to “mourn the children he tried to erase, not the propagandist who put them in the crosshairs. Mourn the communities he sought to criminalize, not the grifter who made millions stoking hate against them. He can rest in piss.”

​A conservative social media influencer shared Engelen’s re-post and urged people to contact the school and demand she be fired. Mead High parents also advocated for her firing through emails and at a community meeting with the superintendent. 

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Conservative are targeting speech. More teachers may lose their jobs. - The Washington Post

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by Robert Becker | September 15, 2025 - 4:49am | permalink

MAGA mayhem – breakneck ways to cut off noses and spite everyone’s faces

How better to assess rightwing cults
Than measure the real, Main street results?
Witless tariffs, bloated prices, lost jobs,
Juiced by dark motifs from Thomas Hobbes.

MAGA IS "nasty, brutish, and short" –
Hoard guns, strip rights, hire thugs to deport;
Are chumps that dumb? Due process shields all,
With profiling a cliff-edge pratfall.

Corrosive actions reap what they sow,
Ugly vengeance the lowest of the low.
And Vance's sneering, jungle law drums
Don’t “give a shit” to heinous outcomes.

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