Friday, November 13, 2026

In Ross Douthat (Edited) 60 Minutes Interview Trump Admits He's Likely Not "Going To Heaven".

 

                          "Go to  hell? That's where I came from, idiots!"


Donald Trump had to know his 60 Minutes  interview with Christian conservative, NY Times columnist Ross Douthat, would not be a cakewalk or a 'gimme'.  He'd have to know he'd surely need to work at his lies - how to craft them in terms of anticipated questions - especially if they questioned his own actions, morality or indeed whether he possessed any faith at all.  I mean he basically already stated he was above all morals, as well as laws of God or man. In a January 2026 interview with The New York Times, Trump openly stated that his power is constrained only by his "own morality" and "own mind", barking:  

"Yeah, there is one thing. My own morality. My own mind. It's the only thing that can stop me".

Well, it doesn't take a brain scientist or proverbial rocket scientist to grasp from a decade of his actions - from when he said he could shoot somebody on 5th avenue and people would still vote for him, to how women let him 'grab 'em by the pussy', to his mocking a handicapped NY Times reporter, 


And how he wanted six Dem Senators executed for treason, for saying soldiers can disobey unlawful orders. So we already knew Trump has no morality, and everything he does is self-serving and purely transactional. Philosopher Susan Nieman in her recent book  Call It Evil: Understanding the Trump Era has defined such a totally self-serving amorality as the essence of evil. 

As she notes:

 "My concern is with the amoral ideas that Donald Trump embodies and reinforces, ideas that are destructive enough to warrant the term evil. The worst kind of evil is the refusal to recognize morality at all."

 As examples she cites Trump's "unnerving indifference to vice" as in his already well-publicized enjoyment watching endless videos of the fishing boats being blown out of the water in the Caribbean - with innocent people in them- entertained as if mesmerized by a video game. As well, "the lack of anything resembling a coherent excuse for his attack on Iran", underscoring just how far this indifference goes.

So anyone thereby familiar with the arc of Trump's own actions as well as his nonstop lies would grasp he is the embodiment of evil, and not in a purely religious sense. Nieman (p. 4): 

"Isn't evil a religious concept? Not at all. As I argued in Evil in Modern Thought, religion is one way of coming to terms with a world where evil is so painfully present. Religion, in short is not the source of the concept of evil, which is prior to every idea of religion. "

 In the interview with Douthat Trump faced a fearless religious writer who wasn't about to tolerate any Trump BS and had him on the ropes early about corruption, i.e.

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Followed by whether he believed in an afterlife and if he could forgive his enemies if God demanded it. (I.e. to get into heaven) .   In the interview in sparse moments of semi-honesty, Trump made no bones  about finding it difficult to forgive those he considers his enemies. Admitting his hate- even if it meant going to hell.

Earlier, Douthat asked Trump where he believes he’ll go after he dies. As usual he lied to Douthat’s face:

“Well, I’m a religious person, so in theory I go to heaven. I hope so. I don’t want to go to hell.”

Let’s get this out of the way: Trump is by no means a “religious person”.  Religion - any religion- presumes at least a minimal acknowledgment of morality. Trump even admitted himself he has none - only what he deems is "moral" by his own self-definitions and "as the only way to stop me."

Things got murkier when asked by Douthat if he can extend grace and forgive his political enemies, such as FBI Director James Comey and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. His answer totally conformed to his own self-serving definition of his morality, or rather pseudo-reality:

“Well, then I wouldn’t be real, would I? I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that is ‘Oh, yes, I could forgive, The answer is no. I want to be honest, no.”

When asked whether he’d change his stance if God requires it, Trump doubled down on his unwillingness to forgive. 

“Before the judgment, no. I do hate some of my enemies…I probably cannot do that, no, because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will,” he said firmly. 

In this answer, as well as in the arc of his depraved actions, such as enjoying videos of fishing boats incinerated by Hellfire missiles, I was reminded of how I tackled evil in my book, 'Beyond Atheism, Beyond God', p. 245-46.

Chief among G.I. Gurdjieff's insights is that “the human condition is a state of waking sleep in which the whole of man's life is mechanically ruled by the impersonal forces of world which itself is lost in meaninglessness and illusion” Gurdjieff therefore considered nearly all humans to be puppets, incapable of acting as truly autonomous agents, so long as they lived their lives in a state of diminished consciousness. Once one adopts self-serving prescriptions he reverts to a mechanistic puppethood.

(Jacob) Needleman (‘What Is God?) notes that evil in whatever guise is the direct result of the puppet-self acting in its own self-interest, with inattention and automation. People kill others because they’re auto- directed puppets, not embodiments of THE SELF. If their consciousness configured the latter then they’d act in accord with it and be unable to inflict evil on others.”

Again, this was not in any way a religious divergence. It was based solely on the recognition that we humans can surmount our animal selves and egos if we enable our consciousness to expand beyond myopic self-obsession and the constant reduction to materialistic glorification. Like Trump's adorning the White House in Saddam-style cheesecake gold and building multiple monuments to himself. But bottom line, Trump's evil resides in his being an indifferent, self-serving puppet form of creature. Thus, seeing bodies of fishermen being blown to bits while drones fire Hellfire missiles at them means nothing. 

Trump's response to Douthat in being unable to forgive his enemies, sheds further light on his degenerate narcissistic psychology.  This was explained by psychotherapist Elliott Connie in an Instagram video on Monday. 

As Connie observed, 

"The fact that he can maintain his hatred of his enemies, even when facing the judgment of God, is exactly the kind of mentality that narcissists hold. Because what’s happening there is he’s willing to hate people that acknowledge his hatred might be wrong. If you are facing God in this context, and God is saying hatred is wrong, and if you denounce said hatred, I will let you into paradise, and he’s saying, 'I still can’t do it,' he’s literally saying that he is more important than God in relationship to making that decision. He is not willing to put down his hatred for anyone or any entity."

Well, exactly!  This mega- MAGA puppet, is convinced he is beyond all morality but his own, so is a god in his own mind. A vile, vicious, malignantly driven puppet deity who now fancies himself all powerful - given no one has checked his excesses.

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by Robert Reich | October 16, 2026 - 5:21am | permalink

— from Robert Reich's Substack

The Democrats’ focus on affordability seems to be a winning strategy but we mustn’t lose sight of the moral squalor at the core of the Trump regime.

It’s that moral squalor — the utter disregard for the opinions, norms, and ideals of the nation or, for that matter, of humanity — that uniquely marks Trump and the reprobates he has attracted to Washington. It has also poisoned much of the Republican Party, including the billionaires and tech bros who finance it.

To put this despicable era behind us, we’ll need to renounce and reverse this squalor.

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President Trump has been rampaging around the globe like Grendel at dinner time, a rapacious, feral creature. Who could stand up to him?

The soft-spoken, humble Leo, who strives to unify, squared off against the bombastic, solipsistic Trump, who strives to divide. And watching the saintly pope school the amoral president is a blessed sight.

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