Friday, June 6, 2025

The Billionaire Bro Brawl May Finally Implode The Anti-Progressive, Authoritarian "Manosphere"

 

                           "How could ya go all TDS on me now, Elon?"

Some of the main high lights from yesterday's brawl

"In The Atlantic earlier this year, Jill Filipovic called this version of manhood “The Adolescent Style in American Politics.” I called it “Toxic Immaturity” in 2023. This style of masculinity rejects the old-fashioned notion that being a man means being a provider, a moral exemplar or a protector. That’s been replaced by disruption and edgelord posturing without any accountability to other people. If that’s what passes for aspirational masculinity these days, men and boys are in more trouble than I thought."- Jessica Grose, NY Times, ‘Musk and Trump’s MAGA Masculinity'


The WSJ editorial with its header and sub-header today :

The Trump-Musk ‘War of the Roses’

The erstwhile political allies will both lose this nasty divorce.

highlighted all you needed to know about yesterday’s Billionaire Bro Brawl in full public view.  As the WSJ editors put it:

Someone could have cleaned up choosing the closest date for the inevitable divorce between President Trump and Elon Musk. This pair of modest egos were never a good match for the long haul, and on Thursday their breakup turned into “The War of the Roses.”

It certainly makes for entertaining political theater, at least for Democrats.“

And why shouldn’t it have made for entertaining theater for not just Dems but all sane citizens? Or at least brought a bright interlude amidst the serial carnage wrought on this nation by these two vile megalomaniacs.  For Dems it was indeed a gift from the gods to behold a social media cage match that may finally give them hope to overturn Trumpism. (Or as Nicole Wallace described it on Deadline Whitehouse,two tarantulas facing off inside a gold gilded jar”).  

 Given the untold damage these two malformed maggots have done to the nation, hell, everyone should applaud. Damage in varying degrees - from Musk's DOGE gutting and cutting of critical services and agencies (like USAID) using a menagerie of tech punks - to Dotard's litany of lawless executive orders trashing everything from due process, to cowing the media and neutering law firms, to attacking the judiciary, to engineering lawless deportations, to undermining universities and terrorizing international students.

So Dems - and indeed every sane and sentient person not in the MAGA camp- have every reason to celebrate this Bromance breakup-  and hope it brings some measurable positives.  But that will depend on how much damage it can wreak on the misbegotten "Manosphere" that basically voted for these two reprobate hucksters to defeat Kamala and the Dems back in November (By 55 - 45%).

I say "misbegotten Manosphere" because it is based on luring clueless (mostly younger) males into the realm of toxic masculinity - best framed during the Reepo convention last summer, e.g.


And epitomized in this image from a Dem blog:


I.e. women are to be served up on their macho paws, not respected - and certainly not to become President. No surprise the macho apes on display included Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock, whose hijinks even the conservative WSJ  couldn't let stand writing (
The Wall Street Journal (p. A6, July 20-21):

"The fiery rhetoric and testosterone-fueled lineup, including macho screaming cameos from Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock, were a signal that the campaign isn't trying to win back college-educated suburban women."

As I noted:

"Of course not. Since those women have too much sense and intelligence to attend a "white trash party" (in the words of comedian Larry Wilmore on Real Time)  and be lured in by ape-like displays more peculiar to the Mandrills"


But as even college-educated males were lured into the faux-machismo mosh pit (by getting brain -jacked by podcasters such as Joe Rogan) we knew it was almost over for Kamala.  All it needed was Musk injecting his $290m worth of lies into the 7  swing states and getting enough lowbrows to reject the first ever woman president.  A choice for national advancement - as opposed to the regression we've seen-  endorsed in an ad for Kamala by Sam Elliot :

 who embodies more masculinity than the whole parade of Mandrills at last summer's RNC circus.

Going back to yesterday's Battle of the Billionaire Bros,  Trump at one point suggested Musk suffered from “Trump derangement syndrome,” to which Musk replied that the President wouldn’t have won without him. Which is 100 percent true.

Musk spent hundreds of millions of dollars to help get Trump elected, said that the president was ungrateful and wouldn’t be sitting in the Oval Office without him.  He stated the Dems would have gotten the House, and also the Senate 51-49, as well as the presidency.  Not far from the truth, given Musk’s $290 million in ads – mostly seeded in the swing states – spread enough lies to mislead enough morons to vote a felon and traitor into power.

In yet another round Musk floated the idea of starting a third political party and agreed with a tweet that Trump should be impeached.

The ‘nuclear instant’ transpired when Musk also said Trump’s name was in the files on disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, which is why, he said, they haven’t yet been released. (He even included a video of Epstein and Trump yucking it up together at a 1992 party).

 DemocratsSteve Bannon and the social-media universe wasted little time in weighing in.  So did the 200,000 cut from the federal work force at the hands of these two egomaniacal misfits. So did half the nation disgusted by Capt. Bonespurs authoritarian ploy of using masked thugs to seize innocent people off the streets, captured in these video frames on All In last night:

‘Menacing’: Hayes sounds alarm on rise of ‘secret police’ under Trump



 Bannon for his part demanded Dotard deport Musk and seize all his assets, Space X, Tesla and Starlink.

Back to the Billionaire Bro Brawl:  The 3rd party and impeachment threat was too much for Dotard so he responded by threatening Musk’s government contracts, along the lines intimated by Bannon.

Predictably, shares of Musk’s electric-vehicle maker fell 14% Thursday, losing about $152.4 billion in market value, the stock’s biggest one-day slide on record.

Will any further newsworthy stuff transpire, foreshadowing a final irreparable rift and benefit the nation? Who knows? We will have to see what unfolds over the next few days and if the Reep manosphere is finally kneecapped paving the way for an end to Trump 2.0.   But look, ending Trump's mad Megabill would be win enough, certainly for the millions who'd be adversely affected,

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by Ailia Zehra | June 6, 2025 - 5:22am | permalink

— from Alternet

The Associated Press's White House correspondent Seung Min Kim has said the public feud between President Donald Trump and tech billionaire Elon Musk could have serious consequences for the president's agenda.

While speaking during a segment on CNN Thursday, Kim said she heard some early reactions to the development from some Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill who fear this spat could impact Trump's "Big, Beautiful Bill."

She said Rep. Ryan Zinke, (R-Mont.) who served as interior secretary in Trump's first term, said this fight "can put the bill in serious jeopardy."

"You have the richest maWho Owns America? Musk and Trump Are Fighting Over the Deed

by Thom Hartmann | June 7, 2025 - 5:08am | permalink

— from The Hartmann Report

The alpha-male dick-measuring contest between Trump and Musk isn’t entertainment: it’s the inevitable outcome of America’s complete surrender to oligarchy.

After centuries of democratic progress, we’re watching the World’s Richest Man® and the World’s Most Powerful Man® battle for supremacy on social media like feuding warlords. How did the land of Lincoln and Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Kennedy, become a playground for billionaire sociopaths?

The answer has a name: John Roberts.

Back in the day, Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis warned us:

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n in the world, and you have the most powerful man in the world going up against each other," the Montana Republican said, per the reporter.

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And:


And:

The mesmerizing, painful Trump-Musk meltdown


Excerpt:

They played a psychological game — with each other and the world — intended to wreak havoc, a word whose roots are in the ideas of plunder and pillage, before coming to mean destruction more generally. On Thursday, as the partnership collapsed, they embodied all the definitions. Trump accused Musk of feeding at the government trough and threatened to cut off his plunder. Musk retaliated with the nuclear allegation of a possible cover-up of Trump’s ties to the notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

No relationship has room for more than one narcissist. This fact alone was probably terminal for the Trump-Musk marriage, but it did not help that the two billionaires are so much alike. Effective teams have complementary traits, not redundant ones. Trump and Musk both specialize in bellicose social media, share flitting attention spans and are standouts in shamelessness. Whatever dank psychological wellsprings supplied the water for these weeds were sure to be overtapped.”


And:


Excerpt:

“Musk seems to have realized that his crusade to slash federal spending (original goal: $2 trillion; reality: more like $150 billion) was no match for Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill, which the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office on Wednesday said would add $2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. Trump’s demand that the debt ceiling be raised by another $5 trillion was going to more than wipe out any spending cuts made by Musk and his team. Ending diversity, equity and inclusion programs, or trying to uncover waste and fraud, he learned, is just nibbling around the edges of the government-spending behemoth.


And:

The Alarming Part of the Musk-Trump Dispute


Excerpt:

“At the height of the juvenile flame war on Thursday between the world’s richest man and its most powerful one, Donald Trump posted a barely veiled threat on his website Truth Social. “The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts,” he wrote. “I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!”

All the tech oligarchs and business titans who’ve thrown in with Trump, apparently deciding that strongman politics are good for business, should think carefully about that post. In it, you can see the transition to a new kind of American regime.

Until approximately six months ago, business leaders did not have to worry that voicing their opposition to an American president could tank their enterprises. Now, it’s widely understood and even tacitly accepted that the president will wield the power of his office to crush his enemies. That’s why stock in Musk’s electric car company, Tesla, plunged while he fought with Trump, losing, astonishingly, about $150 billion in market value on Thursday”.


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