After the Laura Ingraham faceoff with Parkland survivor David Hogg, with the conservo guntards and snowflakes still melting down in screaming fits, it behooves us to try to get it into their thick skulls that Hogg is not against the Second Amendment. As Hogg and fellow classmate Cameron Kasky made clear last month on HBO's Real Time, neither condemns the Second Amendment or wants it repealed.
It's not the Second Amendment that needs condemnation or rejection but rather ignorant and juvenile interpretations of it, i.e. which claim that one is entitled to own an AR-15 or any similar military type assault rifles under that banner. I had previously skewered this balderdash in my citation of the 2008 SC case District of Columbia vs. Heller:
http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2018/02/sorry-you-have-no-constitutional-right.html
The majority opinion was written by arch-conservative Justice Antonin Scalia who - while upholding the right to own arms - adamantly asserted that those weapons "most useful in military service" fall outside the scope of the 2nd amendment. What exactly is there about this ruling the guntards don't get - or are they plain and simple "gun-tarded"? Do they need to be spoon fed and walked through it paragraph by paragraph, or sentence by sentence?
A recent article in The Wall Street Journal ("Ban On Military -Style Rifles Upheld", April 7-8, p. A3) notes that earlier SC ruling was once again upheld in a Massachusetts case whereby:
"A federal judge ruled that the Constitution offers no protection for the military style rifles used in recent mass shootings - dismissing a legal challenge by gun owners and dealers in the state."
Adding:
"Judge William G. Young's ruling followed the reasoning of an opinion last year by the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld a Maryland law similar to Massachusetts."
The piece also noted that Judge Young cited the 2008 Heller case that assault style weapons fall outside the province and protection of the Second Amendment. As he wrote in the ruling:
"The AR-15 and its analogs - black, semi-automatic rifles with pistol grips and other military features - are simply not weapons within the individual constitutional right to bear arms."
The same legal cases are now also being invoked (according to a Denver Post report two days ago) to ban all AR-15s and other assault type rifles in Boulder, Colorado- along with bump stocks and high capacity magazines.
Seems to me if the guntards want to whine, piss and moan about gun control "infringement" on their rights, they'd do better to condemn Scalia's 2008 ruling on the unconstitutionality of a "right" to own AR-15s in the Heller case. As long time conservative pundit Joe Scarborough put it two months ago, soon after the Parkland shooting:
"If you want to make the argument that the Supreme Court should protect your rights to have military style weapons, that's legitimate. But if you say it is your God-given constitutional right to have an AR-15 that is not what the second amendment says. And it's not what Justice Scalia says or the Supreme Court says."
But the guntards ignore all reason, and all legal basis for limiting military grade weapons, preferring to scream like banshees on their blogs and spew hate at Hogg. who is merely the messenger. All Hogg is really demanding is that the same standards Antonin Scalia already upheld in D.C. vs. Heller, be implemented nationwide.
The biggest howler in all the protracted hyper reactions of the Right, is the absurd belief that Hogg is being fed prompts and scripts by Left groups, George Soros, or Media Matters. Again, as I noted before, because these knuckle draggers can't conceive themselves speaking articulately and knowledgeably at the age of 17, they refuse to accept David Hogg can do it. Hence, he must be part of a halfwit "conspiracy" - as confected by the dunces - like Steve Duncie- ...errr Doocy...on 'Fox and Friends'. (Doocy is the resident genius on "Fox and Friends" who once tried to roast marshmallows using just his bare hands and a plastic spoon, e.g.
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2010/11/19/fox-amp-friends-attempt-to-roast-marshmallows-w/173553
He also once averred that the Swedes are "pure" because they only marry other Swedes, not "other species".)
All this is part of the disproportionate vitriol directed at Hogg, much of it driven by pure envy given Hogg's motley crew of haters wish they had half the brains he has. The Right's snowflakes' hate is also spurred by the kid's resolve, given he has not been deterred by their attacks. He continues to speak and write in whatever venue allowed for the limits on military style weapons with pistol grips and high capacity magazines..
Among the Right's vitriolic haters is Virginia Lamp, aka Ginni Thomas, the wife of the dumbest, most unqualified candidate ever to be appointed to the Supreme Court (as the classic token black). Lamp wrote on Monday - in one of the most lame brained posts ever - accompanied by images of Holocaust survivor shoes:
"To all the kids that walked out of school to protest guns. These are the shoes of Jews that gave up their firearms to Hitler. They were led into gas chambers, murdered and buried in mass graves. Pick up a history book and you’ll realize what happens when u give up freedoms and why we have them,"
Seems to me if the guntards want to whine, piss and moan about gun control "infringement" on their rights, they'd do better to condemn Scalia's 2008 ruling on the unconstitutionality of a "right" to own AR-15s in the Heller case. As long time conservative pundit Joe Scarborough put it two months ago, soon after the Parkland shooting:
"If you want to make the argument that the Supreme Court should protect your rights to have military style weapons, that's legitimate. But if you say it is your God-given constitutional right to have an AR-15 that is not what the second amendment says. And it's not what Justice Scalia says or the Supreme Court says."
But the guntards ignore all reason, and all legal basis for limiting military grade weapons, preferring to scream like banshees on their blogs and spew hate at Hogg. who is merely the messenger. All Hogg is really demanding is that the same standards Antonin Scalia already upheld in D.C. vs. Heller, be implemented nationwide.
The biggest howler in all the protracted hyper reactions of the Right, is the absurd belief that Hogg is being fed prompts and scripts by Left groups, George Soros, or Media Matters. Again, as I noted before, because these knuckle draggers can't conceive themselves speaking articulately and knowledgeably at the age of 17, they refuse to accept David Hogg can do it. Hence, he must be part of a halfwit "conspiracy" - as confected by the dunces - like Steve Duncie- ...errr Doocy...on 'Fox and Friends'. (Doocy is the resident genius on "Fox and Friends" who once tried to roast marshmallows using just his bare hands and a plastic spoon, e.g.
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2010/11/19/fox-amp-friends-attempt-to-roast-marshmallows-w/173553
He also once averred that the Swedes are "pure" because they only marry other Swedes, not "other species".)
All this is part of the disproportionate vitriol directed at Hogg, much of it driven by pure envy given Hogg's motley crew of haters wish they had half the brains he has. The Right's snowflakes' hate is also spurred by the kid's resolve, given he has not been deterred by their attacks. He continues to speak and write in whatever venue allowed for the limits on military style weapons with pistol grips and high capacity magazines..
Among the Right's vitriolic haters is Virginia Lamp, aka Ginni Thomas, the wife of the dumbest, most unqualified candidate ever to be appointed to the Supreme Court (as the classic token black). Lamp wrote on Monday - in one of the most lame brained posts ever - accompanied by images of Holocaust survivor shoes:
"To all the kids that walked out of school to protest guns. These are the shoes of Jews that gave up their firearms to Hitler. They were led into gas chambers, murdered and buried in mass graves. Pick up a history book and you’ll realize what happens when u give up freedoms and why we have them,"
Well, at least we can see she's a good I.Q. match for hubby, Clarence! She doesn't even know that Jews were allowed to keep their guns until November 11, 1938, when the German Minister of the Interior issued the Regulations Against Jews Possession of Weapons. Assuming she can count using the fingers on one hand this was five years after Hitler was appointed to the Chancellory by Paul von Hindenburg. Why didn't the Jews rise up in those intervening years? Huh? Speak up, Lamp and fellow cretins!
Again, NO one has any intent to "take guns away" or make anyone "give up freedoms", as the hysterical Hogg haters (and Parkland activist haters) like Lamp insist. They can still stock all the other weapons they want: shotguns, pistols, bolt action rifles, you name it - just not ARs or their cousins (like the Bushmaster .223). Maybe, these complainers and Hogg attackers need to go back to school and study some of the legal aspects related to the Heller case. They'd sure as hell make much more constructive use of their free time than spamming juvenile Hogg -Hitler images!
Again, NO one has any intent to "take guns away" or make anyone "give up freedoms", as the hysterical Hogg haters (and Parkland activist haters) like Lamp insist. They can still stock all the other weapons they want: shotguns, pistols, bolt action rifles, you name it - just not ARs or their cousins (like the Bushmaster .223). Maybe, these complainers and Hogg attackers need to go back to school and study some of the legal aspects related to the Heller case. They'd sure as hell make much more constructive use of their free time than spamming juvenile Hogg -Hitler images!
Kudos to Hogg for taking on almost single handedly the entire vile NRA-linked network of fools, lobbyists, hacks and yahoos who'd rather spend time creating fake images of Hogg with Hitler than learning more on specific legal cases limiting the ownership of assault- style weapons.
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Excerpt:
"As our nation debates gun rights vs. gun control, there’s a stupid argument that keeps resurfacing on the anti-gun control side. I’m not anti-gun, but I am anti-stupidity, so this is bugging me.
It’s the idea that because criminals, by their very nature, do not follow laws, we should not pass any laws limiting gun rights.
The thought goes that if we, say, require universal background checks, good, law-abiding people will follow that law, but criminals will still buy illegal guns. Therefore, why bother with the background checks?
This is ridiculous for several reasons.
First, that’s not how laws work. We don’t say, “Well, we could ban rape, but rapists would still do it anyway. I guess rape should be legal.”
Second, it could deter some people. There are some people who believe in following laws, or at least don’t want to get punished for breaking them. Even if the illegal gun buyers are unethical, many gun sellers will refuse to violate a law.
Third, not all criminals plan their crimes in advance. Some gun violence is done in a fit of passion.
Yes, the person premeditating murder might go get a gun in advance.
But let’s say it’s someone who would not be able to get a gun legally if there were universal background checks. Maybe they’re a convicted felon, or they have a mental illness that predisposes them to violence, or they’re a domestic abuser.
If this person flies into a murderous rage, it’s harder to get a gun quickly, because nobody can legally sell them one."
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