tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post674808292186734283..comments2023-12-17T13:05:30.543-08:00Comments on Brane Space: Can "Pastor Mike" Pass A Basic Test on Biblical Exegesis from a Jesuit University?Copernicushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-71275054921505738632013-04-24T15:00:36.394-07:002013-04-24T15:00:36.394-07:00"proto- and deutero-canonical tests"
Sh..."proto- and deutero-canonical tests"<br /><br />Should read: proto- and deutero-canonical TEXTSCopernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-70743667611933045842013-04-24T14:59:06.162-07:002013-04-24T14:59:06.162-07:00Verily...the post(s) I saw (i.e. on the Dead Sea S...Verily...the post(s) I saw (i.e. on the Dead Sea Scrolls and origins, etc.) merely reinforce my point that you have no valid excuse NOT to attempt to take the biblical exegesis test! To therefore invoke other 'books of antiquity' is irrelevant.<br /><br />If then: you admit there existed Dead Sea Scrolls, Qumran scrolls, as well as proto- and deutero-canonical tests - then you have no excuse, NADA for evading the Loyola Univ. test.<br /><br />I will even go you one better on this, to show how fair I am: You can take as long as you want to finish it, so long as you don't google. <br /><br />I also will go even better than that, trusting you not to cheat, i.e. google. Why? Because I do believe that you believe you are a saved person on the blood of J.C. Hence, to 'cheat' would be to violate one of the Ten Commandments you hold dear. So, I trust you not to go that route, given to do so would amount to a repudiation of all your cherished beliefs. It would mean, in effect, you also have no respect for even fractional truths.<br /><br />Again, this open invitation is merely to disclose for all of us here on Brane Space that you really do possess the biblical -exegetical erudition you claim.<br /><br />We will have to interpret your continued refusal to even attempt the test - despite the breaks I've given - as prima facie evidence that you simply haven't the wherewithal to answer the questions in any intelligible fashion!Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-3946105506891516322013-04-24T05:09:03.599-07:002013-04-24T05:09:03.599-07:00You wrote:
"WHAT other books of antiquity? Yo...You wrote:<br />"WHAT other books of antiquity? You don't even mention them."<br /><br />Guess ya need stronger glasses; please see:<br /><br />http://www.mstahlstraighttalk.blogspot.com/2013/04/why-satan-via-his-minions-continue-to.htmlMike https://www.blogger.com/profile/10369574538444942811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-87376607360361775502013-04-23T15:41:36.839-07:002013-04-23T15:41:36.839-07:00Mike, your complaints are spurious and daft. WHAT ...Mike, your complaints are spurious and daft. WHAT other books of antiquity? You don't even mention them. <br /><br />Here's what I can say: IF a so-called 'book of antiquity' has undergone any kind of exegesis of its own, and been scrutinized on its own merits, then I do accept that such work is worthy of consideration as perhaps a contribution to human spiritual advance. Even in that case, however, I regard NO book as possessing all of truth - since for multiple reasons I have gone over before - NO one book can hold all of truth!<br /><br />See e.g. <br /><br />http://www.brane-space.blogspot.com/2009/12/truth-hurdle-part-i.html<br /><br />and<br /><br />http://www.brane-space.blogspot.com/2009/12/truth-hurdle-part-ii.html<br /><br />and<br /><br />http://www.brane-space.blogspot.com/2010/01/truth-existence-claims-and-god-talk.html and<br /><br />http://www.brane-space.blogspot.com/2010/01/truth-existence-claims-and-god-talk_18.html<br /><br />Unless, one is fully aware of the implications in that content, one: a) hasn't a clue about 'truth' or where found, and b) certainly can't tell another anything about his own pursuit of it! Nor can he claim to know whether in fact another accepts it or not!<br /><br />One last thing, it is paranoid presumption of the highest order to try to impute I'd accuse you of cheating if you passed the exegesis test. In fact, IF you did I'd slap you on the (virtual) back and say 'Well done!' You're bible online college is as good as Loyola. But to pre-empt even attempting it on the excuse I'd call you a cheater, is again merely exposing yourself as using a smokescreen.<br /><br />As for being a 'closet Catholic, ROTFL! I don't think even the new pope would let me in if he knew I didn't accept: 1) papal infallibility, 2) the Catholic Church as the 'one true church' or religion, and 3) that Jesus was a God -man. Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-31702270968462949512013-04-22T20:54:53.494-07:002013-04-22T20:54:53.494-07:00Tell ya what, Phil. As I mentioned in prior posts,...Tell ya what, Phil. As I mentioned in prior posts, when you start holding other books of antiquity to the same standards you hold the Bible to - AND, scrutinizing THEM in the same way you do the Bible, then I'll perhaps take you seriously.<br /><br />Until then, no matter what answers I may give you on your "test," they'd be "wrong" (according to YOU!)<br /><br />Hell, even if I "passed" (under YOUR criteria), you'd accuse me of cheating. <br /><br />Simply because you don't accept the TRUTH, doesn't mean it is NOT the truth.<br /><br />Sheesh! (I still say you're a 'closet Catholic')Mike https://www.blogger.com/profile/10369574538444942811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-81469587828682738962013-04-22T19:34:58.062-07:002013-04-22T19:34:58.062-07:00I should add here that the concepts and themes of ...I should add here that the concepts and themes of proto-canonical and deutero-canonical books are generic to ALL biblical exegesis/scholarship. So is the existence of the Qumran scrolls, Dead Sea scrolls. Hence, to complain about any test with such content is totally absurd.<br /><br />Hence, to dodge questions- even on these - is to disclose a lack of confidence to answer them in the first place. Or, maybe not having been exposed to them at all.<br /><br />In any case, to drag in the Jesuits, 'Satan' and 'Catholic universities' as excuses not to answer is merely to expose yourself as adopting a transparent smokescreen.<br /><br />More importantly, it doesn't serve to commend either your online bible school or your evangelicalism as worthy challengers to even a 1st year Loyola theology course!Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-45878157753612337802013-04-22T14:19:52.764-07:002013-04-22T14:19:52.764-07:00The fact is, Mikey ---- my little backward bro, th...The fact is, Mikey ---- my little backward bro, that there is tremendous overlap with what was taught at Loyola and the general way most biblical scholars approach exegesis. <br /><br />So, in a way I am not at all surprised you'd proffer some specious "bible-based" excuse. Hell, you can't even make up your mind whether the Bible can be interpreted or taken literally. (No, sorry, they are mutually exclusive so you can't claim both!)<br /><br />I'm also not the least bit surprised you'd craft an escape hatch full of bollocks, given your online Bible school teaches one one hundredth what we had at Loyola.<br /><br />Using the Jesuits as "storm troopers" is beyond pathetic when the real reason you won't even try is that you lack the educational wherewithal and support to deliver one single coherent answer.<br /><br />Checkmate, is right.<br /><br />On YOU! <br />Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-62469745170901703092013-04-21T09:31:03.996-07:002013-04-21T09:31:03.996-07:00Let me get this straight. You want me to take a &q...Let me get this straight. You want me to take a "test" from a Catholic Jesuit Univ., when not only is Catholicism diametrically opposed to the Word of God, but the Jesuits themselves are the “storm troopers” of the RCC, and their purpose is propagation of the RC faith by any means possible? (i.e., SATAN!)<br /><br />Yeah, right! <br /><br />When we compare their beliefs and practices with the Bible, however, it would appear that they have “a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof” (2 Tim. 3:5).<br /><br />So, there's my answers and GOD just gave me 100% on it!<br /><br />(CHECKMATE...AGAIN!)<br />Mike https://www.blogger.com/profile/10369574538444942811noreply@blogger.com