tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post671366060676799991..comments2023-12-17T13:05:30.543-08:00Comments on Brane Space: WHAT can you do with a Bozo?Copernicushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-87543274691347247152010-03-09T07:21:08.544-08:002010-03-09T07:21:08.544-08:00By the way, just fyi, I see he's still using t...By the way, just fyi, I see he's still using the childish definitions of terms given in Encarta (probably online) than going to a dictionary of Philosophy. It's no wonder this jerk can't get his words straight!<br /><br />He writes in his last response (which I recommend you don't waste your time with):<br /><br />"AGNOSTIC : “somebody denying God's existence is provable: somebody who believes that it is impossible to know whether or not God …” ( SOURCE : Encarta World English Dictionary – emphasis mine .)<br /><br />I refuse to believe you’re that dense "<br /><br /><br />Actually, HE's the one that's dense and super-dense because the definition is totally weak and incomplete. The full definition of agnosticism (which makes it possible to discuss it on more than bonehead O'Reilly terms) is that:<br /><br />-<br />Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic. The agnostic theist believes in the existence of a god but maintains the nature of god is unknowable. The agnostic atheist maintains any supernatural realm is inherently unknowable by the human mind. And further - not only is the nature of any supernatural being unknowable, but the existence of any supernatural being is unknowable as well.<br /><br />The key point is that properly considered, agnosticism is not a third alternative to theism and atheism because it is concerned with a different aspect of religious belief. Theism and atheism refer to the presence or absence of belief in a god; agnosticism refers to the impossibility of knowledge with regard to a god or supernatural being.<br /><br />Meanwhile, by generic def. the term atheist is relational. It cannot be non-relational. Only a term or def. grounded on the premise that knowledge is impossible (aka the agnostic) can be non-relational. The a-theist then is defined in terms of and in the context that the propostion 'God exists' is already made or circulating via theists. It is nonsense to call this term non-relational or interpret it as meaning it doesn't matter to the atheist whether god exists or not.<br /><br />The problem with Mike's childish definition is that it's so loose it can apply to the agnostic THEIST too!<br /><br />At the end of the day, your brother is simply unworthy of any engagement in serious debate. He is more a clown, a carny barker or entertainer (like O'Reilly) out for laughs at others' expense. You just have to read his blog for five minutes to see it's all about mockery, bluster, buffoonery and caricature (like the issues pertaining to Roman Catholics being "real" Christians, or whether you were an adult at 17.)<br /><br />He is just a waste of time as I said before.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11864292327259837089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-29410483990390013022010-03-09T06:56:00.986-08:002010-03-09T06:56:00.986-08:00"Keep it simple, stupid’ - So like Bill O'..."Keep it simple, stupid’ - So like Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck and most of those cretins on Faux News- we see he adheres to simpleton standards of debate and answers. No wonder that debate with him is impossible"<br /><br /><br />That "KISS" thingie is the dumbest pile of crap I've ever heard. Actually, I think it originated with that bonehead Bill O'Reilly on FOX so your dumb bro probably watches it. <br /><br />Imagine using the "KISS" scheme for serious political or sceintific discusssions. It wrongly assumes each and every issue or topic can be discussed in simple terms, which is totally false. <br /><br />Issues like atheism differences, and how they apply to conviction are not simple, but complex aspects of philosophy. If all these were that simple, there'd be no need for philosophy. No philosophy degrees (or theology!) would ever be awarded and we'd all end up as bozos like Pastor here. <br /><br />What Caleb said about Pastor's dopey take on needing faith to fly in a plane is also relevant. Only a total moron or a terrified wimpus needs that. If we fly on a regular or even part time basis we have implicit trust and confidence - realizing if the pilots (or airlines) were deficient to the point of requiring faith - they'd all go out of business. <br /><br />Faith is useful only for people who lack the educational background to give the insight needed to inspire confidence. (Which I agree is probably a lot of people in this country.)<br /><br />I would have got a good laugh seeing you take this moron down for calling Ardi and the other primitive hominids "apes", but I agree it was best not to waste any more time.<br /><br />In fact, I wouldn't engage him any more period, until he gets either a higher IQ (not bloody likely) or goes back to school (high school?) for more education. It's obvious that debating him is brutal - more like a Rotweiler (you) ripping apart a dumb puppy. It's no contest.<br /><br />Let him howl and screech his gibberish against atheists, no one is reading him anyway. He's like a madman screaming at his own voice in his own cell. <br /><br />He's pathetic.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11864292327259837089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-29444238969800892132010-03-08T14:08:40.777-08:002010-03-08T14:08:40.777-08:00What is your brother a blinkin' idiot? Most co...What is your brother a blinkin' idiot? Most countries regard people as adults by the time they're 13. Indians get married by the age of 12. You were prolly only months from getting your first draft card, which meant being called to fight...like in 'Nam. And the idiot says you were not an adult?<br /><br />His claim about Catholics being pagan ritualizers almost had me in convulsions on the floor. Is he serious? Doesn't this dope know that HIS religion came from Catholicism? I also understand the new Catholic doctrine is a much fiery and hotter Hell- about a trillion degrees - for all those who left the Church and became evangelicals that attack it. And HE thinks YOU went from frying pan into fire? HAW HAW HAW....HO HO!<br /><br />Your nailing him about the atheism thing was also totally spot on. Any idiot knows you can't give a simple 'yes-no' answer to that. You did what you had to and explained the difference between implicit and explicit atheism. Problem is your bro is too dumb and dense (needing 'keep it simple stupid') to get it.<br /><br />I also like what you said about the faith thing. I mean, what's he want ....to have faith a plane will get up off the ground every time you fly? Or your dentist will have the right size crown if you need one? You don't have faith in that stuff, you have confidence in the person's expertise whether pilot, dentist, doctor or whoever.<br /><br />The bit about the necessary and sufficient conditions is prolly too advanced for this dude to get. But definitely, you're not obliged to say what you know or don't about his god until he gives those. If he's never given them he's making jest. He's not serious!<br /><br />I was also glad you omitted all his ignorance about not knowing the difference between apes and primitive hominids, like Ardi. He really needs to go a a real school not a bible college. At least a place where people learn how to read and write something longer than two syllable words!Caleb Shayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08971916422910289078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-62865251901691456792010-03-08T13:58:05.120-08:002010-03-08T13:58:05.120-08:00Wow! I had no idea that this nut was THAT ignorant...Wow! I had no idea that this nut was THAT ignorant! In most countries of the world, hell...95% ...people are considered ADULTS at the age of 15 or earlier. In India many are married by age 13. To claim you weren't an adult at 17 (prolly only months before you had to get your draft card) is insane.<br /><br />Then, to use the keep it simple, stupid bunk proves this guy is a moron. Because only morons need to keep it simple in extended discussions. What will this clown do if and when his bible college (sic) requires him to write out an analysis of the Q gospels? Probably burp up all his soup.<br /><br />The bit about the Catholics being "pagan ritualists" is also choice, since as you pointed out HIS religion spun off from theirs! Can he be THAT dumb!?<br /><br />Your responses to his complaints about atheism were spot on, since any and everyone knows that there are two types. I myself am the explicit variety but that's just me. <br /><br />The bit about the faith in pilots and dentists (which I read from his stupid blog) almost had me in hysterics from laughing so hard. So....every time I fly now I have to have faith the plane will get off the ground? And when a dentist has a new implant ready or crown I have to hav "faith" it will fit?<br /><br />WHAT IS HE A MORON?<br /><br />I agree you cut him off early and didn't go into any of his jabbering about apes vs. early hominids. Does he not know that Ardi was a primitive HOMINID which is not the same as an APE?<br /><br />Did your brother ever take an IQ test? Did he ever score over 80?<br /><br />Just wondering!Caleb Shayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08971916422910289078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-82052898781974500332010-03-08T13:22:50.414-08:002010-03-08T13:22:50.414-08:00Hey Copernicus, I just read pastor mike's pos...Hey Copernicus, I just read pastor mike's post and your answer to it here. What's up with this guy? I mean he himself doesn't answer anything at all with a simple yes or no without going thru pages of bible passages that make no sense at all. He'll tell you to answer in a yes or no and keep it simple, but when you do that he gets on you for not explaining yourself to his satisfaction. I don't think he knows what it is he wants. <br /><br />This self made pastor goes on the attack about everyone and ALL religions except his made-up one. I really think he's critically brain damaged or something. By reading some of his rants, I think he also believes he's some sort of "good-old-buddy", of Jesus or God himself. He thinks he has a direct hotline to God and is being somehow communicated to, by him. "HEAR VOICES ANYONE"? Doesn't he realize he's schizophrenic thinking like that? <br /><br />These religious types that always claim God or Jesus is communicating with them are merely answering themselves with their own defective brains. Ther IS NO outside force of communication from a diety or anything else. It's just themselves. He really should get some professional help, possibly from professionals in de-programming of individuals of his type.ted. hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11805727808720569391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-79995886134149097962010-03-08T13:19:01.411-08:002010-03-08T13:19:01.411-08:00Hey Copernicus, I just read pastor mike's pos...Hey Copernicus, I just read pastor mike's post and your answer to it here. What's up with this guy? I mean he himself doesn't answer anything at all with a simple yes or no without going thru pages of bible passages that make no sense at all. He'll tell you to answer in a yes or no and keep it simple, but when you do that he gets on you for not explaining yourself to his satisfaction. I don't think he knows what it is he wants. <br /><br />This self made pastor goes on the attack about everyone and ALL religions except his made-up one. I really think he's critically brain damaged or something. By reading some of his rants, I think he also believes he's some sort of "good-old-buddy", of Jesus or God himself. He thinks he has a direct hotline to God and is being somehow communicated to, by him. <br />"HEAR VOICES ANYONE". Doesn't he realize he's schizophrenic thinking like that? <br /><br />These religious types that always claim God or Jesus is communicating with them are merely answering themselves with their own defective brains. Ther IS NO outside force of communication from a diety or anything else. It's just themselves. He really should get some professional help, possibly from professionals in de-programming of individuals of his type.ted. hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11805727808720569391noreply@blogger.com