tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post4107900099115700425..comments2023-12-17T13:05:30.543-08:00Comments on Brane Space: Looking At A "Systems Approach" Argument For Why There Is No AfterlifeCopernicushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-33419137944756937492021-03-05T09:37:10.515-08:002021-03-05T09:37:10.515-08:00Thanks, Christina, for your expanded definition of...Thanks, Christina, for your expanded definition of religion. What I would love to do is to publish on my blog a complete article (from you) predicated on this definition. This would be after you feel have more of the key details worked out. I am sure many blog readers would also find it of immense interest!Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-28784141020727909302021-03-05T06:40:26.478-08:002021-03-05T06:40:26.478-08:00Hi, this is Christina Knight again. I have put as...Hi, this is Christina Knight again. I have put aside, for the time, my work on a General Definition of Religion, but I have developed what I regard as a scientific definition od religion. Unlike Stephen J Gould, I recognize that there is no possible way to recognize science with religion, because religion, and its socio-cultural evolution and development, is itself a legitimate subject of scientific study. I may pursue this topic in the future, but I am currently working on something, that I think is more important. If you have any feedback on the following definition, you may email me at christinaak50@yahoo.com. If you want to email me your blog that would be cool, as well. Feel free to use my definition, if you think it is worthy. Thanks.<br />Religion: A METAPHYSICAL SYSTEM CONSTRUCTED ON AN ARCHITECTURAL FRAMEWORK OF SUPERSTITION AND MYTH, THAT ATTEMPTS TO EXPLAIN THE NATURE OF REALITY, AND THE RELATIONSHIP OF OUR SPECIES TO IT, WHICH ALONG WITH A BODY OF RITUAL, AND A STATIC CODE OF ETHICAL FORMULATION, IS PERPETUATED VIA CULTURAL TRANSMISSION, FOR THE PSYCHO-PHYSIOLOGICAL ALLEVIATION OF EXISTENTIAL ANGST, AND IS EPISTEMOLOGICALLY DEPENDENT ON MAGICAL THINKING, DELUSION, AND CONFIRMATION BIAS.christina knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999704179848524225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-8782346610877964782020-06-04T21:34:52.061-07:002020-06-04T21:34:52.061-07:00Hello, Christina, and thanks for your comment. I w...Hello, Christina, and thanks for your comment. I was hoping I'd receive a comment like yours and it was much appreciated. I look forward to see your article on a General Definition of Religion!Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-16276998621215714172020-06-04T09:01:20.120-07:002020-06-04T09:01:20.120-07:00Hi, I am the Christina Knight, who wrote the artic...Hi, I am the Christina Knight, who wrote the article, which was published in the Mensa Bulletin. Thank you for your fair treatment, in your blog. I was disappointed by the response by Mensa readers, who responded. I am hoping to write a future article on how the difference in how holarchic structure develops, and how it decomposes, explains the unilateral direction of time. If you reread my article, you may follow my line of reasoning. I am currently writing an article on a General Definition of Religion.christina knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999704179848524225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-22005227461766902182020-05-17T14:37:28.642-07:002020-05-17T14:37:28.642-07:00Any further questions can be asked at:
www.quora....Any further questions can be asked at:<br /><br />www.quora.comCopernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-37272891433529894002020-05-17T11:35:49.175-07:002020-05-17T11:35:49.175-07:00NO further questions will be answered whether or n...NO further questions will be answered whether or not I post them. I have addressed and answered all that I can. Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-53255663934802830292020-05-16T21:06:43.814-07:002020-05-16T21:06:43.814-07:00On that note no further comments will be posted on...On that note no further comments will be posted on this thread.Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-80124101451290709342020-05-16T21:05:31.461-07:002020-05-16T21:05:31.461-07:00So I don't believe there's anything more t...So I don't believe there's anything more to be said. Ultimately it is an issue of having the fortitude to be able to accept uncertainty - which includes accepting death even if one doesn't knows what follows - if anything. More knowledge can't help solve the problem, only control of the emotions and courage.Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-47304908248464402742020-05-16T18:02:42.196-07:002020-05-16T18:02:42.196-07:00I recently became very scared and anxious with the...I recently became very scared and anxious with the topic of afterlife because I started thinking of the possibility of some type of scientific idea of an afterlife that would be scary. So I started reading articles that different people wrote about scientific afterlifes whether or not those people had the credentials to talk about physics and such. And even tho I don't fear any afterlife in particular at the moment, I became obsessed with the idea that maybe someone somewhere wrote about some type of afterlife that would be terryfing with or without any type of proof(because in my mind I would think that that idea could very well be the truth and there would be nothing I could to stop that from happening or stop myself from thinking that 'what if thats the truth?' and obsessing over that idea). But I've been telling myself just like you said that there is no need to frightened by any ideas about afterlife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-12196711231124481702020-05-16T08:08:43.248-07:002020-05-16T08:08:43.248-07:00"an you explain the afterlife McLauchlin talk..."an you explain the afterlife McLauchlin talks about? Or point me to a place that explains it?"<br /><br />Ok, but I m afraid this is it for comments. They are now starting to extend longer than the blog posts themselves also I do not believe I can provide any more information than I have to you. I think the rest is just going to other sources, also attending to your own fears - which no amount of information or replies can relieve. At the end of the day death and afterlives will remain an unknown and we just have to come to accept that.<br /><br />Anyway, McLaughlin's basic point is that on dying we continue lives in future cycles, on and on and on. He argues we basically relive our same lives again, but in a kind of 'alternate' or parallel universe. It's kind of like reincarnation - but you remain the same person reliving your life but with no memory of the previous one/<br /><br />I wish you the best if luck on your continued search for afterlife answers but I don't believe I can supply any more than I have. As I noted, the rest involves getting control of your own fears and doubts. I wish you the best!Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-58385766976557396832020-05-16T06:30:19.243-07:002020-05-16T06:30:19.243-07:00Can you explain the afterlife McLauchlin talks abo...Can you explain the afterlife McLauchlin talks about? Or point me to a place that explains it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-23880826020516566702020-05-15T22:01:52.946-07:002020-05-15T22:01:52.946-07:001) No.
2) The book I mentioned in another post c...1) No.<br /><br />2) The book I mentioned in another post comment:<br /><br />'What Really Happens When You Die?: Cosmology, Time and You' - by Andrew McLauchlinCopernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-5411016857733571992020-05-15T18:16:13.924-07:002020-05-15T18:16:13.924-07:001_But do you think we should fear or do fear any a...1_But do you think we should fear or do fear any afterlife ideas that are non religious, like quantum consciousness or any other.<br />2_Do you know of any other "scientific" theory of afterlife (besides the one you present in your blog of Hameroff's quantum consciousness)?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-17866500501466737352020-05-15T17:07:32.931-07:002020-05-15T17:07:32.931-07:00Maybe - but fortunately no such "ideas" ...Maybe - but fortunately no such "ideas" are real! They are concoctions of religious powers trying to gain control of one's mind and will.Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-13109388016553466432020-05-15T09:16:12.505-07:002020-05-15T09:16:12.505-07:00Do you think that there is any afterlife idea that...Do you think that there is any afterlife idea that we should fear, or that you fear?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-67992926807915544222020-05-08T16:12:14.172-07:002020-05-08T16:12:14.172-07:00"you are answering to this question "its..."you are answering to this question "its because in Hameroff s case there would be no self so we wouldnt be able to distinguish from nothingness, right?" ,correct? "<br /><br />Corect.Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-62703566294129989942020-05-08T16:10:16.624-07:002020-05-08T16:10:16.624-07:00There is no "proof" as such that de Brog...There is no "proof" as such that de Broglie waves can encompass consciousness, other than what Bohm has proposed in his assorted papers, book (Wholeness and the Implicate Order) But these are more in the way of reasoned conclusions than hard evidence. As for surviving death, if de Broglie waves are real - as experiments show - then yes by inference they'd survive death as a form of quantized wave energy. (I.e. "Energy cannot be created or destroyed only changed from one form to another")Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-17062554922171955802020-05-08T10:23:35.224-07:002020-05-08T10:23:35.224-07:00Here "For all intents it would be, i.e. in th...Here "For all intents it would be, i.e. in that no explicate being would be able to tell the difference." you are answering to this question "its because in Hameroff s case there would be no self so we wouldnt be able to distinguish from nothingness, right?" ,correct?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-20880411358434212482020-05-08T09:54:07.475-07:002020-05-08T09:54:07.475-07:00Is there any proof that Broglie waves can encompas...Is there any proof that Broglie waves can encompass consciousness and survive death or is it just speculation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-78917411948690620742020-05-08T07:12:02.638-07:002020-05-08T07:12:02.638-07:00For all intents it would be, i.e. in that no expli...For all intents it would be, i.e. in that no explicate being would be able to tell the difference.Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-68110480602662749502020-05-06T07:02:33.821-07:002020-05-06T07:02:33.821-07:00And so do you think this "quantum afterlife&q...And so do you think this "quantum afterlife" would be the same as the Nirvana described by the Buddhists?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-88868366168418185182020-05-06T06:54:33.088-07:002020-05-06T06:54:33.088-07:00So when you say "Indeed, for all intents, Ham...So when you say "Indeed, for all intents, Hameroff's afterlife and the atheist's nothingness post -death may essentially be indistinguishable." its because in Hameroff s case there would be no self so we wouldnt be able to distinguish from nothingness, right?<br /><br />Would this waves of "consciousness" be eternal?<br /><br />And is there any proof to this "quantum conscious afterlife"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-65931887212430973932020-05-06T06:36:30.253-07:002020-05-06T06:36:30.253-07:00Essentially, I have more and more come to the conc...Essentially, I have more and more come to the conclusion there is no "self" in any afterlife. In the one case nothingness would preclude it, and in the (Hameroff) case, a self would not be distinguishable from an oceanic wave form. So what's the point? To me obsessiin over a self is a peculiar Western obsession and here we might learn a few things from the Buddhists, for example. (I.e. their 'Nirvana' is basically a state of transcendent nothingness)Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699554476216140859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6301096656497422535.post-6719507218794430892020-05-05T20:06:04.595-07:002020-05-05T20:06:04.595-07:00Is the idea of an "afterlife" here descr...Is the idea of an "afterlife" here described, the one from Bohm and Hameroff, the one you still believe(besides the simple idea of nothingness after death)?<br />Including what you wrote here "Indeed, for all intents, Hameroff's afterlife and the atheist's nothingness post -death may essentially be indistinguishable." and here "I have to reiterate again that Hameroff's conception isn't really any kind of recognizable "afterlife". Indeed, it is impossible to even remotely describe a putative nonlocal state (of being) as experiencing an afterlife, if it perceives at all. <br />It also leaves a decided negative slant on the question of preserving any sense of self. How can one if the self is no longer separable but one with an oceanic "sea"?"?<br /><br />Or has something made you change your mind?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com